white nonsense - the top 10 hits

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atane:

When you write about race, the feedback and messages white people send you ends up being the same. They all have the same tired retorts. They desperately need to get new material.

Here are the top 10 hits of white nonsense. There are many more examples, but these are the top 10 imo.

1. Not all…

The mentioning of Eastern Europeans here is disrespectful. Considering how many different conquering armies have stomped over the Polish, Ukrainians, etc. over time, there is no need to utilize them as a prop in a “not all…, lol” argument. especially when it’s so clear that the person that would claim Eastern Europeans didn’t participate in imperialism is already doing exactly that.

Everything else I agree with.

I think something is lost in translation here. Let me elaborate.  

I definitely was not using Eastern Europeans as a prop! I mentioned them because it is a very real tactic and ongoing theme people use to derail conversations and topics I write about or bring up. It happens all the time. When I mean all the time, I mean all the time. I could be talking about European colonialism in Africa or the history of white majority rule in Southern African countries, and then someone will message me about Eastern Europeans like I have somehow condemned them. Of course I did no such thing, but they love to play this game and put words in my mouth. It is a diversion.

Sometimes people will bring up Eastern Europeans completely randomly to me. The other day I wrote this post about how when Nigerians die, there is never a concrete number of the casualties. Someone wrote in a reply asking “what about Ukraine people?" Did that have any relevance to what I was talking about? Absolutely not. Just like if I’m talking about the British Empire and their brutal colonialism and white supremacy, someone will message me about Eastern Europe to tell me "not all white people".

This is what I’m talking about. I hope I’ve made myself clear. I’m not disrespecting Eastern Europeans.

Thank you.

How ironic that on a post about white nonesense a white person responds… with UTTER nonesense. Truly unbelievable. I’m constantly floored by how incredibly narcissistic white people can be, incredibly high on their white privilege and the power of white supremacy. Everything must be centered around them. And the fact that Atane MENTIONED that white people love to derail using the Eastern European argument -which he did not mention in a disrespectful manner by the way at all as he is very conscious of the differential histories and power dynamics etc. (see above)- and then to watch a white person comes along and says the SAME thing. Just wow.

White people never cease to amaze me. 

I’ve been wanting to reply to this post awhile now, but it’s difficult since I have next to no sources to back me up on this (despite studying Russian and Polish). But in regards of “East Europeans didn’t do what West Europeans did”:

First of all, I’d like to say that although East Europe is not synonymous to Russia, Russia brutally colonized Siberia from 16th century onwards, and murdered most of the indigenous people living there, and all European nations under Russian/Soviet regime or influence have participated in it and continue to do so. There is no question about weather or not natural resources stolen from Siberia benefit modern day Russians, and us Finns, and the part Siberian oil and gas play in Ukrainian and Belarusian politics as well as EU politics is huge. People tend to forget that this is exploitation of indigenous lands, because apparently Russia has hidden and destroyed historical records of how Siberia came to be a part of the country.

Second of all, for an European nation to participate in imperialism it was not necessary to have your own colony or be independent. There is for instance some Polish population in Brazil, whose ancestors moved there with Russian passports in the 19th century. This means that those people participated in the colonization, thus Polish people participated in the imperialism. I’m sure that of each East European nation there are examples of people moving to colonized lands to “find better life”, and that better life was built on colonialism, white supremacy, stealing and exploitation of indigenous lands and natural resources and slavery.

Products from colonized lands such as coffee, tea and spices were and are sold in East Europe too, so people who stayed home benefitted also. This is so fucking obvious I don’t know why I even have to say it.

People tend to forget that colonialism was an all European project, and the ideology behind it was “common knowledge” in pretty much every part of this continent, and still is if you look at the large racist political movements and the inhumane immigration policy we have for instance. People from all over Europe went to work to colonies or moved there for good, people went as missionaries, engineers, sailors, explorers, farmers etc. It didn’t matter that the country you lived in didn’t have it’s own colonies: Finnish engineers worked in Belgian Kongo for instance, and Finnish farmers moved to North America (as Swedes and as Finns). Again I’m sure that similar examples can be found in the histories of different East European countries, if you know what to look for.

I honestly don’t believe that there is a nation in Europe that didn’t participate in the imperialism (unless you can prove it with large amounts of as unbiased research as possible). It is far more likely that everyone participated enthusiastically, despite of being under foreign rule or at war with your neighbors. Everyone wanted to be a colonialist, East and West Europeans alike, but some had more opportunities than others.

I think this is a case of East Europeans believing, much like us Finns, that we didn’t participate in the colonialism because it’s never spoken about or not explicitly stated in history books, or that even if we did participate we weren’t “as bad”. Also it might be the case of historical records talking about people as “Russians” or “Austrians” or “Swedish” or something else because the modern country didn’t exist yet or was under foreign rule, or people had emigrated from there to West Europe (which was kind of popular amongst upper class East Europeans).

Also I really don’t like the way in which certain parts of the history of Poland and Ukraine, albeit sad and violent, are used to prove a completely different matter. Being under Russian rule didn’t stop Polish people from moving to Brazil and Ukrainian cossacks probably participated in the colonization of Siberia even though they might have been considered Russian at time.

Call me disrespectful all you want but I feel like actually people who say “not East Europeans!” don’t know enough about their own history and the ways in which they benefit from colonialism and white supremacy, and use unrelated historical facts to shut up people who disagree with them, or to make sure that they get special treatment as “white people who were nicer than the rest”. Or I dunno “white people who are super oppressed by everyone”, like some Finns claim for some reason (??????). European power dynamics aside, white East Europeans do have white privilege that is built on colonialism and in my opinion things that people of color say about white people are very, very likely to be true for East European white people as well.

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White folks who say “not East Europeans!” should read up on the Couronian colonization of the Americas. Even Switzerland, a landlocked country, mind you, participated in the colonization of the Americas. So, yeah… *not ALL White people.* Just a huge majority of White people that renders the very few who didn’t negligible.

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white nonsense - the top 10 hits

atane:

When you write about race, the feedback and messages white people send you ends up being the same. They all have the same tired retorts. They desperately need to get new material.

Here are the top 10 hits of white nonsense. There are many more examples, but these are the top 10 imo.

1. Not all…

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"Mexicans are taking our jobs" but y’all took thousands of Africans to do yours

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Nicki Minaj speaking the truth on twitter about racism (7/23/14)

Gimmie a break. Everyone can succeed if they work hard.

u would say that because your white

How did I know you would say that. Nikki is black and she makes more than me. #icomeinpeace

I see that went right over your head…Nicki’s post had nothing to do with money but it had all to do with the music industry today
what I’m saying, If I must address the rap world and the so call “beef” between iggy and nicki. Nicki Minaj has worked her ass off to make a name for herself in the industry, not only as a rapper but as a pop star too. She had songs like super bass and starships but also gave iconic verses like the monster feature, just to show people that she can survive in both lanes.
Not to mention that she also had 3 memorable mixtapes to back up her hip-hop credentials and now has to sit and watch as a mediocre rapper like iggy get praised as the new rap queen off of a few catchy choruses and plus the fact that she is white. I don’t know about you but I would be pissed if I didn’t get the credit I deserved too.
Iggy was born in Australia and grew up on a farm, dropped out of high school, moved to the U.S. when she was 16 and met a guy that was in his 20s that eventually hooked her up with modeling agencies. Dude was basically her sugar daddy because he paid for her first apartment and all her expenses. She comes out with a couple of mixtapes and an EP that non of which are critically acclaimed. Drops some singles from her album like Work, Change Your Life, and Bounce (non of which cracked the top 50 on billboard).
So then she releases Fancy, now Clear Channel (which owns 840 radio stations in the US) has a voting system that saves artist if their songs aren’t doing so well on the charts, it’s called the “on the verge” program. They voted to add Iggy’s song Fancy to every station and that song must get 150 spins from each one. (that’s how u hear the same song 4-5 times in one hour)
That made Iggy’s song get stuck in people’s heads so they eventually bought it and that’s how iggy became a huge star. Not by hard work, not by rap skills, not by good songs but by people feeling pity on her flopping singles so they had to save her career. Iggy is not seen as a rapper, she is in the same category as Pitbull, flo-rida and Macklemore, they all will have top tens and possibly #1s but are never looked at as great rappers.
Iggy has been putting out mediocre music that is catchy to garner the attention of the pop/mainstream world but has yet to release anything that makes her a great lyricist/rapper. Iggy’s complexion and body has gotten her more attention than her music. Now u can say that nicki uses her body to for attention too but she captures ur attention with her body and u stay captivated by her metaphors, flow, versatility, and the lyrics of her songs.
( notice how I didn’t mention Iggy’s fake accent when she raps or her horrendous album sales compared to Nicki’s first album… but that’s none of my business🐸☕️)
PS: If u don’t mind, when u address the queen her name is spelled N I C K I not Nikki. thanks

I forgot I responded like this lol… I was definitely in my feelings

READ HAA!!

Damn. I learned something new.

Tell these privileged basics, Queen Nick !!!

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Best retaliation, tbh. There’s no way to refute anything you said.

FUCK. You went in. True though..


Went in for da kill
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